08:47 starcat Wait wait wait
08:47 starcat X is actually PAYING ATTENTION what
08:48 starcat Also, wow, early cutoff.
08:48 Xadium! well not really
08:48 starcat Well, I used my nomination so it's not like I can get anyone else.
08:49 Xadium! i said in the thread nominations would close yesterday
08:49 starcat Nah, it's not that early, it just seems like previously we had two weeks instead of one
08:49 Xadium! there was ample notice
08:49 starcat like I said i used mine so
08:49 starcat I don't really feel guilty
08:50 Xadium! well it wasn't a shortage of nominations
08:50 starcat nah, we had three
08:50 Xadium! it was a shortage of secondings
08:50 starcat I just didn't really feel like either other nominee would be the kind of op I'm looking for
08:50 starcat (and I'm not sure Yai is it really either)
08:50 Xadium! well that's a personal choice
08:50 starcat Yeah I know
08:50 Xadium! no one is obliged to second
08:51 starcat it's just an interesting situation.
08:51 Xadium! yes
08:51 Xadium! unprecedenyed
08:51 Xadium! ^unprecedented
08:52 Xadium! but at this stage it really is just yai's to take.
08:52 starcat vaguely annoying, as I had some good questions for Yai and the other candidates :(
08:52 starcat Yeah.
08:53 Xadium! well
08:53 Xadium! i dunno what will happen
08:53 Xadium! we shall see
08:53 starcat and I nominated Yai; it's not like I could justify being disappointed in the choice should he accept
08:53 Xadium! yes there is that XD
08:53 starcat and should he not...well, then things will get REALLY interesting <_<
08:53 starcat >_>
08:53 Xadium! i havent' quite decided what I wil do in that position
08:54 Xadium! the low turnout could cynically be calledby me a lack of interest in the position
08:54 starcat the obvious answer is to hold a re-election but then the obvious answer isn't always right.
08:54 Xadium! as only four people were interested enough to participate
08:55 Xadium! and i know there are more than 4 non-ops
08:55 starcat my issue is that neesan needs help with the everyday op stuff. Yai can be trusted to make good decisions for the big things but I'm concerned that he wouldn't do the normal things.
08:56 Xadium! RL makes it hard for the rest of us to be around all that much
08:56 starcat I know, and I don't really blame you
08:56 starcat It just means that if there's an opportunity to change someone I'd like to see someone who could do both
08:56 Xadium! that's the problem with the oldening of the chatbox
08:57 Xadium! we're all hitting college and work.
08:57 starcat sometimes both at teh same time!
08:57 Xadium! yesh
08:57 starcat I'd be in more but I kinda kicked out my main character <.<
08:57 starcat ^_^;
08:57 Xadium! lol
08:57 starcat For good reasons, but it still hinders my participation
08:58 starcat which reminds me
08:58 Xadium! dammit quantum of solace i dont' want cameras!
08:58 starcat gotta continue exposition et cetera
08:58 Xadium! ah
09:01 starcat anywaaays.
09:01 starcat op elections fascinate me
09:01 Xadium! how so
09:01 starcat they're a tiny experiment in political thought
09:01 starcat we don't have political parties, per say
09:02 Xadium! hmm
09:02 starcat and it's clear that voters have been dropping off
09:02 starcat or at least nominations
09:02 Xadium! like i said lack of interest in the positon pershaps
09:02 Xadium! an interesting question to pose to the box populi would be "would you LIKE to be an OP" and see who bites
09:03 starcat I wouldn't >_>
09:03 starcat at least not now
09:03 Xadium! but the lack of nominations indicates a lack of support in some ways
09:03 starcat Yeah.
09:03 starcat Well one thing is
09:03 starcat The ops are very visible.
09:03 starcat And it's easy to see that they show up.
09:03 Xadium! yes
09:04 starcat The problem is that unless you actually know what's going on then a lot of the small opworks are going by unnoticed or being done by Shaldra.
09:04 starcat so even though there are ops around they're not op-ing it up.
09:04 starcat or something
09:04 starcat And there are exceptions and people have been getting better and such
09:04 starcat but HISTORICALLY...
09:05 Xadium! well aside from trolls and such we haven't had the same level of *********ery around
09:05 starcat The last big decision was in June
09:05 Xadium! yeah
09:05 starcat That's a really long time in internets.
09:05 Xadium! it's almost november now
09:05 starcat Yup.
09:05 starcat And it hasn't been dwelling in the backs of everyone's minds.
09:05 Xadium! almost close to half a year
09:05 Xadium! or if it has no one has said anything
09:05 starcat But another interesting thing to me -- you didn't put like "IMPORTANT: OP ELECTION NOMINATIONS ARE OPEN" or anything in the topic
09:06 starcat You were quite low-key about it
09:06 starcat and I wonder if that somehow contributed to the lack of turnout?
09:06 starcat Like
09:06 starcat It wouldn't be the ONLY thing for sure.
09:06 starcat It won't stop those determined.
09:06 Xadium! Well that's the thing
09:06 starcat But for those who don't care, they weren't given the motivation to care
09:06 Xadium! I wanted to see just how much people cared
09:06 starcat but maybe that's not a bad thing
09:06 starcat yeah
09:06 Xadium! well if they need to be motivated
09:07 Xadium! then their real interest in the process is low anyway
09:07 starcat yup
09:07 starcat I kinda wish someone had nominated Furu
09:07 starcat that would have been an interesting race for me personally
09:08 Xadium! -nods-
09:08 starcat but now we wait for Yai!
09:09 Xadium! sounds like the name of a play
09:09 Xadium! "Waiting for Yai"
09:09 starcat more fun than Godot
09:10 Xadium! :D
09:10 starcat Yai likes the braintwisty D:
09:10 starcat He could very well see us here and purposely not show up D:
09:10 Xadium! gauging the reaction of the masses!~
09:11 Xadium! well he has had the job before to no complaint.
09:13 Babelglyph Yup.
09:13 Xadium! the first one to hold it twice
09:13 Babelglyph and if I hadn't talked to him beforehand about him being op again I'm not certain I would feel so comfortable.
09:13 Xadium! oh?
09:14 Babelglyph If it were someone else that I didn't have any sort of discussions then I would be a lot more blegh
09:14 Babelglyph brb phone
09:14 Xadium! k
09:15 Babelglyph back
09:15 Babelglyph Anyways
09:15 Babelglyph Yai is a wildcard, and one I like
09:15 Babelglyph But still a wildcard
09:15 Babelglyph and had someone else nominated and seconded him
09:16 Babelglyph I'm not certain I'd be so "well it's not my ideal race but hey it'll still end up fun"
09:16 Xadium! ah
09:16 Xadium! but you've known him for years now
09:17 Xadium! is there atill that much trepidation?
09:17 Babelglyph So? =)
09:17 Babelglyph People change.
09:17 Babelglyph Eh?
09:17 Xadium! mm good point
09:17 Babelglyph No no, not like "OH NOES YAI IS GONNA BE OP WHAAAT"
09:17 Xadium! ah
09:17 Babelglyph just like "...hm. I hope this turns out for the best."
09:18 Babelglyph Even without specific details I do trust him to make good decisions.
09:18 Babelglyph I'd really just hoped to have another candidate to weigh my Yai-feelings against :/
09:18 Xadium! ah
09:19 Babelglyph so yaaay
09:20 Babelglyph now things get either incredibly dull (Yai accepts, early party is had) or wonderfully fascinating (Yai declines, the world flips over :3)
09:20 Xadium! if he says no
09:21 Xadium! then i have some interesting ideas.
09:21 Babelglyph =D
09:21 Xadium! but i reserve those for that eventualiyu
09:21 Babelglyph I would ask but I feel like they should be kept until after the decision~
09:21 Xadium! yes
09:21 Babelglyph although if he says yes I want to know at least one D:
09:21 Xadium! XD
09:22 Xadium! well let's just say one has to do with a recognition of the fact that about a third of the box is OPed.
09:22 Babelglyph Man.
09:22 Babelglyph We have ONE.
09:22 Babelglyph ONE out of that third.
09:22 Babelglyph You'd do far better to start demoting older people if you want to cut ops, IMO :/
09:22 Babelglyph but
09:22 Babelglyph then
09:23 Xadium! I wasn't planning to cut ops
09:23 Babelglyph I'm clearly attached to this position
09:23 Babelglyph you want to double an op?
09:23 Xadium! i just never completef the train of thought
09:23 zf well last year we ended up having ops vote, didn't we?
09:23 Xadium! no XD
09:23 Babelglyph XD
09:23 Babelglyph Sorry
09:23 Xadium! did we?
09:23 Babelglyph Jumped to conclusions
09:23 Babelglyph Last year ops could vote, IIRC
09:23 Babelglyph but not nominate.
09:23 zf yes
09:23 Xadium! yes
09:23 zf i know, i counted
09:24 Babelglyph but the nominations are the issue here.
09:24 Xadium! see if things get bad i might relax that first part.
09:24 Xadium! only recusing myself
09:24 Xadium! as OPs are a third of the community
09:24 Xadium! and have to live / play there too
09:24 zf we do have a lot of OPs
09:24 Xadium! yes
09:24 Xadium! but effectively we do not
09:24 Babelglyph we have a lot of ops who aren't doing oply things :/
09:25 Xadium! since most of them are not around for RL reasons
09:25 Babelglyph For whatever reasons
09:25 Xadium! well there isn';t much to do
09:25 Babelglyph nope
09:25 Babelglyph but it seems like when there IS stuff to do there's only one or two people who do it :<
09:25 Xadium! well tehr IS a reason.
09:25 Xadium! due to liability reasons Shal is the only one other than me who can actually grab IP addresses.
09:26 Xadium! so that means when there is a troll
09:26 Babelglyph I can understand that, X :P
09:26 Babelglyph I mean topics
09:26 Xadium! and i'm not around
09:26 Babelglyph I've requested topic changes and then they get lost
09:26 Babelglyph because no one's around to do it
09:26 Xadium! she's about the only one who can ...
09:26 Xadium! topics
09:26 Xadium! ah.
09:26 Babelglyph Not just trolls
09:26 zf yes, the topic thing
09:26 Babelglyph Trolls are annoying but can be dealt with even without ops
09:27 Babelglyph We can get horribly stagnant topics, too :/
09:27 Babelglyph And Wolfwood is not against changing topics but well he tends to half-ass them.
09:27 Babelglyph er
09:27 Babelglyph in preserving the previous announcments, at least
09:27 Xadium! hahah well i could always make like a certain other place and pretend to pander to that need by having split topics
09:27 Xadium! (that makes me laugh ny ass off so hard)
09:27 Babelglyph split topics?
09:28 Xadium! Two people can topic there
09:28 Babelglyph no 9_9
09:28 Xadium! which is the messiest thing i have ever seen
09:28 Xadium! like two topics on one line
09:28 Babelglyph better for Wolf to learn how to copy and paste
09:28 Babelglyph considering pretty much no one else has issues with being able to do it :P
09:28 Xadium! i cheat and FTP in to edit the topic
09:28 Xadium! so it's easy for me to retain what was there
09:28 Babelglyph so THAT'S how you do it
09:29 Babelglyph kekekeke
09:29 Xadium! yes
09:30 Xadium! i'm almost done making a new entry backend fo the site that will automatically make each entry its own numbered file
09:30 Xadium! this will aid in googling and finding indivisdual entries
09:30 Babelglyph Ooooh
09:30 Babelglyph :3
09:31 Xadium! as you may have noticed i split up the first three years of the site like that by hand
09:31 Babelglyph Maaaaybe
09:31 Xadium! i still have the ichats and the new ircs to do
09:31 Xadium! the beauty of it is i'll have a bit more control over some neat things
09:31 Xadium! like the ability to post links to random entries
09:31 Babelglyph hahaha ichat
09:31 Babelglyph Oooh yay.
09:32 Xadium! --shush i still like it
09:32 Babelglyph hell no
09:32 Xadium! if CSS-border ever becomes common (and it will) i will go back to it
09:32 Babelglyph i am eating a bar of frozen icing
09:32 Babelglyph :9
09:32 Babelglyph it is so delicious
09:32 zf ...
09:32 Babelglyph my transfer turned out great X3
09:32 Xadium! because then the code will be must more lightweight
09:33 Xadium! ^much
09:33 zf oh nice star
09:33 Babelglyph hey X when you get happy with how the front page works in the backend
09:33 Babelglyph are you going to turn your eye back to the chatbox?
09:33 Babelglyph So we can maybe get rid of this meebo box? D:
09:34 Xadium! no
09:34 Babelglyph :( sad
09:34 Xadium! every time i've doubled up the chatboxes
09:34 zf i like meebo box
09:34 Xadium! the processor load spikes
09:34 Xadium! they'd kick me off
09:34 Xadium! this box has to eb the overflow
09:35 Babelglyph I...kind of like it
09:35 Babelglyph but I kind of don't
09:35 Babelglyph Because the embedded one has such awful limitations
09:35 Xadium! i know
09:35 Babelglyph I have to use the one on meebo.com in order to get a good connection =/
09:35 Oronde hey dr. x
09:35 zf but it's nice beeing able to see who's here
09:35 Xadium! but they won't even let you pay for a modded one unless you have a million hits a month
09:35 Babelglyph D:
09:35 Babelglyph they what
09:35 Xadium! hi oronde
09:35 Xadium! yeah you heard
09:35 Babelglyph Eww.
09:35 Oronde whaty's gonig on?
09:36 Babelglyph :S
09:36 Xadium! i looked into it
09:36 Oronde er what's I meant
09:36 Xadium! i was willing ti pay for a custom one
09:36 Babelglyph SOMEDAY THERE WILL BE ANOTHER WEBSITE THAT CAN BE EMBEDDED FOR A CHAT
09:36 Xadium! yes
09:36 Babelglyph pst the thread's got a new reply
09:36 Xadium! ok
09:37 starcat Oh man buttercream icing is so delicious @_@
09:37 Xadium! !
09:39 Babelglyph Oh yeah
09:40 Babelglyph My mailbox (like a PO box really) is one of those with the letter combination things
09:40 Babelglyph my combination is JED >_>
09:41 Babelglyph <3
09:41 Babelglyph (L)
09:41 Xadium! LOL
09:47 Babelglyph okay buttercream icing for breakfast was not a wise move <_<
09:49 zf no, but i bet it was yummy
10:06 Babelglyph it was <_<
10:06 Babelglyph but I don't do sugar on empty stomachs so well ;_;
10:07 zf make sure you eat something more table
10:07 zf sometime soon
10:08 Babelglyph :( don't really have anything and don't really want
10:08 zf *stable
10:51 Xadium! what the hell happened to S
10:51 Xadium! SS
10:51 Xadium! I can't access the site
10:55 Xadium! anyone around :/
11:03 Oronde dr. x what happened?
11:03 Xadium! i think my ip was blocked hahahaha
11:03 Oronde can't you get admin access of it?
11:03 Oronde -_-
11:04 Xadium! well from the whole server
11:04 Oronde that's odd
11:04 Xadium! yes
11:04 Oronde somebody hacked into it?
11:04 Xadium! not liely
11:04 Xadium! probably i was accessing the site too fast
12:42 UltraMatt man..
12:42 UltraMatt why do I keep buying Doctor Who DVDs lately @_@
12:45 UltraMatt ahh Invasion of Time...
12:56 UltraMatt man I am in such a Doctor Who mood lately
16:56 Bucket I'm on another pattern frenzy! McCalls patterns for 99 cents at Jo-Ann!
17:01 UltraMatt oh?
17:06 UltraMatt I actually got the base pattern for my cosplay at a Jo-Ann fabrics
17:08 Bucket sweet
17:09 Bucket what are you doing again?
17:11 UltraMatt I'm doing Prince Diamond
17:16 Bucket oh yeaaah
17:16 Bucket wow
17:16 UltraMatt well...I did cyborg 004 last year..and that came out really good
17:16 UltraMatt so I'm hoping this will come out alright
17:18 UltraMatt I've always wanted to do a Sailor Moon charcter
17:33 UltraMatt man I hate this computer
18:16 UltraMatt looks like on this thing I can only have up to two things running
