19:35 B-NCSU-Mike testing
19:37 guest949404 hello
19:37 testing123 testing123
19:37 testing123 looks good
19:38 B-NCSU-Mike We'll start in about 22 minutes
19:39 B-NCSU-Mike There seems to be an issue with names like "guest####", please change them to another nickname
19:53 B-UW-William So why aren't we using an IRC protocol or something?
19:54 B-NCSU-Mike not everyone uses it, but I suppose we could inbed an IRC applet
19:54 B-NCSU-Mike the idea behind this was, I was under the impression anyone on any chat network could login on the Meebo.com webpage and join in this Meebo Chat
19:54 B-UW-William I have a couple good ones, I just prefer the protocol because then I don't have to keep this window open.
19:55 B-NCSU-Mike but apparently, you need a meebo account, not just using meebo through your own chat service
19:55 B-UW-William I mean I have like 10 networks open right now and it would just be easier.
19:55 B-UW-William Yeah
19:55 B-NCSU-Mike if you have a good one, and know of some open networks we can use for it, i'll let you setup the next one
19:56 B-NCSU-Mike i dont wanna start editing this page now and imbedding anything, its a little late :D
19:56 B-UW-William yeah, don't worry
20:00 B-UW-William Start?
20:00 B-NCSU-Mike actually, i want to use my super-secret executive powers to delay for ten minutes to pick up any stragglers
20:00 B-FHSU-DR1 Hallo hallo
20:01 B-NCSU-Mike 'ello poppet
20:01 B-UW-William :p
20:01 B-FHSU-DR1 Wow... it's dead innit?
20:01 B-NCSU-Mike i have a confession to make
20:01 B-UW-William Here's the embedded client that I've found...has the most features http://www.pjirc.com/main.php
20:01 B-NCSU-Mike i am ironman
20:01 B-UW-William Well I'm Dracula but who's braggin
20:01 B-FHSU-DR1 *gasps*
20:02 B-NCSU-Mike *grabs garlic*
20:02 B-UW-William Psh, the garlic thing's totally a myth
20:02 B-NCSU-Mike we'll use pjirc next time, ill let you set it up
20:03 B-NCSU-Mike william is using these last few minutes before we start to look over the new constitution: http://www.cattg.org/?page_id=23
20:03 B-UW-William I suggest putting it under a new tab that's called chat or something because otherwsie load times can get thrown off.
20:07 B-FHSU-DR1 SO how's everyone else?
20:08 B-UW-William Sick, yourself?
20:08 B-FHSU-DR1 Helping Advertise CATTG and getting some more PbP RPGs up and running
20:08 B-NCSU-Mike ^DR had quite his own bit of sickness not too long ago
20:08 B-NCSU-Mike but not enough to put him out for the semester
20:09 B-UW-William I will find out tomorrow if I need surgery or not (emo)
20:09 B-FHSU-DR1 One of my friends was sick for two months
20:09 B-FHSU-DR1 Ended up in the hosptal because of it.
20:09 B-UW-William yeah i've been sick for two months now, missed this entire quarter
20:09 B-NCSU-Mike ugh
20:10 B-NCSU-Mike sounds like you had plenty of time to get in on some MUDs
20:10 B-NCSU-Mike ;-)
20:10 B-NCSU-Mike alright, i think we'll go ahead and get started
20:10 B-UW-William I've actually stayed away..*twitch*
20:10 B-UW-William i've been thinking really really hard about going back
20:11 B-NCSU-Mike dont. i know you get the jitters, but you've had that monkey off your back for far too long to go back now
20:11 B-NCSU-Mike Welcome to Board Meeting #1
20:11 B-NCSU-Mike This is the first of the year, since WebChat held us in communication earlier in the year
20:11 B-NCSU-Mike But if that was an open board meeting, this is the second meeting of the year, and I'm somewhat happy with the attendance
20:12 B-NCSU-Mike It is May 5th, 2008
20:12 B-NCSU-Mike 11:12pm EST
20:12 B-NCSU-Mike First on the agenda is the new constitution. Has anyone found any descrepancies they wish to bring forward?
20:13 B-NCSU-Mike For reference: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfk9pk33_27cd8cvzg8
20:13 B-UW-William No, it looks fine.
20:13 B-FHSU-DR1 I have a suggestion
20:13 B-NCSU-Mike yes sir
20:15 B-FHSU-DR1 On the subject of "Foundation" I was considering having it not be a part of the constitution, but perhaps more of a Seperate Article or Weblink on the site, complete with photos of the founders, original members, perhaps a history of the Organization.
20:16 B-NCSU-Mike It's actually a summary of whats on the "About" page here on the site, but I've rewritten things "about us" so many damn times, whats in the constitution might actually be better
20:17 B-FHSU-DR1 *shrug* It is something to consider. I could probably come up with a good summary of the Organization's history... of course I'm still swamped with coursework at the moment.
20:17 B-NCSU-Mike Have you read theh About Page? It really is almost the same. We can easily get some more photos on the site, especially the about page, and rewrite some of the area. But the issue is the constitution.
20:18 B-NCSU-Mike If you don't think it should be in there at all we can remove it. I wasn't sure if it belonged, but it looked nice
20:18 B-FHSU-DR1 Hmm I have no problems with it personally, but yeat it's about the Constitution *is still reading it*
20:19 B-NCSU-Mike ok
20:19 B-NCSU-Mike one of the bigger issues i want to mention is alumni involvement. i wanted to be sure alumni could step up to the plate, as id like to be involved after i graduate, and its always a nice saftey measure
20:20 B-FHSU-DR1 Agreed. I want to stay active in CATTG after Graduating Grad school
20:20 B-NCSU-Mike but i want to make sure that an over bearing alumni dictator can be overthrown by current presidents, especially if they are in charge of a company like WOTC
20:20 B-NCSU-Mike no need for conflicts of interest like that. the last thing we want is CATTG to be taken over by a commercial enterprise
20:20 B-NCSU-Mike and an alumni member moving up is the catalyst for such a catastrophe
20:20 B-FHSU-DR1 *nods*
20:21 B-NCSU-Mike are these things explicit enough in there?
20:22 B-FHSU-DR1 Hmm... something of that importance could have a sub-section under Section 1, to go over ways of removal from the Board of Directors, or who exactly they would represent while on the Board
20:23 B-NCSU-Mike current sections pertaining to alums include: 1-4, 2-1, 2-2
20:23 B-NCSU-Mike just for reference
20:24 B-NCSU-Mike how about I add to section 2-5 "Removal From Office"
20:25 B-FHSU-DR1 Could work.. but I'm still unsure how someone can continue to be on the Board after they leave the chapter they represent.
20:25 B-UW-William Yeah I did notice that there was no way in there to remove someone from office. There should be something like a 3/4 vote or something.
20:25 B-FHSU-DR1 There should be a hearing before-hand. Judge them before a Tribunal or something like that where their accusations and defence can be heard
20:26 B-NCSU-Mike well quorum is already 2/3s, we could just make it quorum after a emergency board meeting to discuss accusations
20:26 B-FHSU-DR1 That sounds reasonable
20:26 B-UW-William Aye
20:28 B-NCSU-Mike This is the way I wrote it: Additionally, an Executive Director should be removed if there are any conflicts of interest pertaining to companies...
20:28 B-NCSU-Mike he or she may work for. To be removed, an emergency Board Meeting should be held to list accusations and defenses. Removal requires a quorum vote.
20:29 B-UW-William There may be other reasons than just conflicts of interest
20:30 B-NCSU-Mike like?
20:30 B-NCSU-Mike im trying to think of the power the ED has. I mean, really, they are just a spokes person. it already says all decisions are voted on by the Board
20:30 B-UW-William Unsure, but don't limit it. I mean not everything is forseable
20:30 B-FHSU-DR1 True this be
20:32 B-NCSU-Mike DR has brough up the issue of being a Director if you are an alum and are away from the college you graduated from
20:32 B-FHSU-DR1 Yes. It doesn't make sense for somoene to be on the Board if they have little connection to the Chapter they joined from.
20:32 B-UW-William Not really
20:33 B-NCSU-Mike i think that directors should really be in touch with their chapter. to really represent them, they need to be involved somewhat
20:33 B-UW-William if they are away but still in contact they could still be a board member
20:33 B-NCSU-Mike but the power to nominate a board member still rests in each chapters hand
20:33 B-FHSU-DR1 True
20:33 B-NCSU-Mike so i think its safe to leave them to the decision of whether or not an alum is really going to represent them or not
20:33 B-UW-William yeah
20:34 B-NCSU-Mike gimme one second
20:38 B-NCSU-Mike alright, refresh your constitutions
20:39 B-NCSU-Mike i separated the Directors section from Executive Director information, which is it's own section
20:39 B-NCSU-Mike this made room to talk about director alums
20:39 B-NCSU-Mike i also added information under removal from office. lets reread the entire section 2 once more
20:41 B-NCSU-Mike i also broadened the conflict of interest thing, since it was talked about a bit already in 2-2
20:43 B-FHSU-DR1 Looks good
20:46 B-NCSU-Mike will?
20:46 B-UW-William Yeah sorry, zoning off, lots of people trying to talk to me
20:47 B-UW-William Looks good
20:47 B-NCSU-Mike alright, lets just momentarilly move down to "Chapters"
20:47 marosell there is a Chapter Registration/Renewel Form mentioned, which i think is important
20:48 marosell as well as the constitution requirement guide, which isn't really anything new
20:48 B-NCSU-Mike http://docs.google.com/a/cattg.org/Doc?docid=dfk9pk33_7gtwmr3fr&hl=en
20:50 B-NCSU-Mike do these things still look fine?
20:52 B-UW-William hrm
20:52 B-UW-William i forget my password
20:52 B-FHSU-DR1 I can't see it either ^^U
20:52 B-NCSU-Mike sorry, try this one: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfk9pk33_7gtwmr3fr
20:53 B-FHSU-DR1 Bingo
20:53 B-UW-William much better
20:54 marosell while you guys look at that, i'll keep talking
20:54 marosell i set up three programs, and have most of the paperwork done for each
20:55 B-FHSU-DR1 Looks good. Just add to our current paperwork load ;)
20:56 B-NCSU-Mike whoops, i meant to talk from this name
20:56 B-NCSU-Mike Philanthropy, Sponsor, and Scholarship. these don't really have much to do with the constitution other then their purposes.
20:56 B-NCSU-Mike The programs can be altered at any time without it really effecting whats written in the constitution, so we don't have to go over them tonight.
20:56 B-NCSU-Mike they're pretty much done. you can read through them, they are linked on the website
20:57 B-NCSU-Mike we dont have to read them tonight, but id appreciate it if you guys went through looking for typos, and then you can bring anything to my attention, or if its little, just edit it yourself
20:57 B-NCSU-Mike you guys have logins where I've shared editing powers with you, correct?
20:58 B-NCSU-Mike from there you can see the whole document tree and filing system
20:59 B-NCSU-Mike i've nominated myself to be in charge of the philanthropy program. are either of you interested in running the scholarship program?
21:00 B-FHSU-DR1 I am interested in helping, however I'm unsure of the time I'll have since I'll be in Graduate School for the next year and then doctorail school after that
21:00 B-UW-William I'm not able to scroll up...
21:00 B-NCSU-Mike room log: http://chatlogs.meebo.com/room/collegiateassociationoftabletopgamers/logs/today/
21:01 B-FHSU-DR1 See the little squares at the top of the bar next to B-NCSU? Click it
21:01 B-NCSU-Mike thats cause you
21:01 B-NCSU-Mike nah, its the piece of **** browser hes
21:01 B-NCSU-Mike using
21:02 B-NCSU-Mike fortunately, i dont think the scholarship program will take much time. it just needs a document write up, and the occasional research, looking for scholarship that pertain to our members
21:02 B-NCSU-Mike and listing them
21:03 B-NCSU-Mike we're no where near ready to start our own, so for now, it'll just be a scholarship directory type of thing, just another resource
21:03 B-NCSU-Mike in terms of philanthropy, recorded, we have 60 hours and $20 donated
21:04 B-NCSU-Mike i'm looking for past instances chapters have done philanthropy to up those numbers. if you guys know of that kind of information, be sure to send it to me
21:04 B-FHSU-DR1 I'll check FHSU needs to send that information in anyway
21:05 B-UW-William I don't know if we've done anything
21:05 B-NCSU-Mike no worries
21:05 B-NCSU-Mike I finished a Sponsor Information Packet and sent it to a company convention in Las Vegas: http://docs.google.com/a/cattg.org/Doc?docid=dfk9pk33_10f6p8876z&hl=en
21:05 B-NCSU-Mike I also want to mail some copies out to companies that we don't meet at GEN CON
21:05 B-NCSU-Mike but we'll have plenty of copies there, as well as a presentation to give
21:05 B-FHSU-DR1 Good idea
21:06 B-NCSU-Mike it details how to set up sponsored materials based on activities that chapters do
21:06 B-NCSU-Mike i need to start working on the Charity/Cause packet and send it out. it'll detail how charities and causes can suggest activities and request them from our chapters
21:07 B-NCSU-Mike other then that, most of the other documents and form mentioned anywhere are all written
21:08 B-NCSU-Mike i think that wraps up the constitution and other documents. lets do a vote on the constitution
21:09 B-NCSU-Mike all in favor, aye
21:09 B-NCSU-Mike aye
21:09 B-FHSU-DR1 Aye!
21:09 B-UW-William Aye
21:10 B-NCSU-Mike we only needed 2/3rds for quorum ;-)
21:10 B-UW-William :P
21:10 B-FHSU-DR1 XD
21:10 B-NCSU-Mike alright, 2.0 is now published as of Tuesday, May 6th
21:10 B-UW-William well how many board members do we have no
21:10 B-UW-William w
21:10 B-NCSU-Mike 8
21:10 B-NCSU-Mike but its 2/3 of attendace
21:11 B-FHSU-DR1 I think it goes towards members in attendance, of which we have enough for stuff... they dont' attend, it's their own fault
21:11 B-NCSU-Mike indeed
21:11 B-UW-William Put something about meetings can not have voting with under 3 members
21:12 B-NCSU-Mike theres something already there
21:12 B-NCSU-Mike "hould participation be relatively low, any director can request that the vote may be postponed, and it will be postponed at the Executive Director's discretion."
21:12 B-NCSU-Mike should i change it?
21:12 B-FHSU-DR1 In other words... Mike's Power Hungery [/jk}
21:12 B-UW-William what if it's two people and they don't want to wait
21:12 B-NCSU-Mike ok
21:13 B-NCSU-Mike three might still be low, so i kept that part
21:13 B-NCSU-Mike "Quorum requires at least three directors. Should participation be relatively low, any director can request that the vote may be postponed, and it will be postponed at the Executive Director's discretion."
21:13 B-FHSU-DR1 *nods*
21:13 B-NCSU-Mike should i lose the "executive directors discretion"?
21:14 B-UW-William Yea
21:14 B-NCSU-Mike i dont think ill bother with an "amendment" or a re-approval vote, i think we're on the same page here. ill publi***** after the meeting, but i went ahead and save it
21:14 B-FHSU-DR1 Agree
21:15 B-NCSU-Mike lets talk Gen Con!!!!
21:15 B-FHSU-DR1 GEN CON!.... which I might not be able to go due to my internship <,<!
21:15 B-NCSU-Mike but, the info needs to get out to your chapter anyways
21:15 B-FHSU-DR1 Granted...
21:15 B-NCSU-Mike here is the official document on the trip: http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dfk9pk33_35ghmnkkht
21:17 marosell basically, you buy your ticket, we all schedule to volunteer a bit, they give us our money back. we also do some "socials" while we're there
21:17 marosell each chapter fends for itself in terms of transportation
21:18 B-FHSU-DR1 Nice. Very Nice work Mike
21:18 marosell but, traveling as a group, and perhaps as a roadtrip is recommended. unless you really want to drive by yourself all the way there, heh
21:19 marosell im going to call the hotel our conferene meeting will be at, i think that will be convinient, but i have no idea what kind of numbers to tell them
21:19 B-UW-William wow far away
21:19 marosell and if plenty of people drive, it may be cheaper to rent a few motel rooms outside the city and cram all of us in there
21:20 marosell yeah. but its a once a year, biggest CON ever
21:20 B-UW-William I dunno I go to some really big cons
21:21 B-FHSU-DR1 Depending... Methinks staying at the hotel which has Gen Con there would bea better approach
21:21 B-NCSU-Mike http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gen_Con
21:22 B-NCSU-Mike 30,000 people big?
21:22 B-NCSU-Mike i thought it would be a neat place for multiple chapters to meet. i know you guys are much further away then FHSU and NCSU, but we're no short drive either
21:22 B-UW-William Well we are over 2000miles away
21:23 B-UW-William it would be cheaper to go by plane
21:23 B-FHSU-DR1 Granted about 7-9 hours of driving is a biiiiit much
21:23 B-NCSU-Mike its completley optional of course, but i think it will be a lot of fun if people can scrounge up the cash-ola
21:23 B-NCSU-Mike did you guys drive a few years ago DR?
21:23 B-UW-William I agree but yeah, that's a bit much
21:24 B-FHSU-DR1 Actually some of our founders did. JC, Logan, and Tom did. We were able to get the school to back it and pay for the gas. however we're late in the Fiscal year to ty and get taht arranged. It'll have to be outta pocket to my knowledge
21:24 B-NCSU-Mike if you catch some flight deals, or maybe call in and see if you can get a group rate, i'm sure you'll find roundtrip tickets in advance for less then $150
21:24 B-FHSU-DR1 If we book it EARLY
21:24 B-NCSU-Mike yeah
21:26 B-FHSU-DR1 I'll get a number to you, but last I saw everyone at FHSU was up for going
21:27 B-NCSU-Mike in terms of driving (sorry to can you outta this william), if its 800 miles, and you drive a car that gets 25 miles to the gallon, at 4 dollars a gallong, with 4 people in the car, its 32 a person in gas
21:27 B-NCSU-Mike not much considering we're getting in for free
21:27 B-NCSU-Mike the biggest expense is the hotel
21:28 B-NCSU-Mike its not a free trip by anymeans, but its the opportunity to go, for $60 cheaper then it would cost you (cause were getting in for free)
21:28 B-FHSU-DR1 Freeness
21:28 B-NCSU-Mike anyways, i'll call the hotel soon and get some figures to add to the document
21:28 B-NCSU-Mike do you guys have any other ideas about this?
21:29 B-FHSU-DR1 Maybe have someplace we can meet, at a time or some such thing *wants to go.. damn you Internship*
21:29 B-NCSU-Mike well it is the weekend you know. take Thur and Fri off, fly in, ill pick you up at the airport and drop you back off again
21:30 B-FHSU-DR1 heh... I think they'll need me there. Currently my plans are to stay until the 19th of August and then drive back to Hays then
21:31 B-FHSU-DR1 anyway... a place for the different chapters to meet and indroduce themselves... I believe it's already in there..
21:31 B-NCSU-Mike yeah, thats more last-few-weeks type of thing
21:31 B-NCSU-Mike lets keep moving this along, its getting late over here
21:31 B-NCSU-Mike lets talk CATTG CON
21:31 B-NCSU-Mike whats the word DR?
21:31 B-FHSU-DR1 I was supposed to be in bed half an hour ago
21:32 B-NCSU-Mike dont worry, ill read you a bedtime story when were done
21:32 B-FHSU-DR1 Um.. well we don't know.. People don't talk to me *which annoys the hell outta me* We're still looking into Hotels and how feasable it is to have ppl crash on couches and such
21:33 B-NCSU-Mike does FHSU have a student center thats really big? i know here we have something called the McKimmon Center, which is rented out a lot for huge conventions
21:33 B-NCSU-Mike mostly educational ones though, dealing with the college
21:34 B-NCSU-Mike i think the biggest step is finalizing a date. checking the school calendar for the 2010 year, keeping clear of exams or any sports games that might be scheduled for weekends in the prox we're looking at
21:34 B-FHSU-DR1 We have the Memorial Union, which is the main building on Campus. So. We could see about renting that out.. however there is a lot of hoops we'll need to jump through to get permision, money to rent it, among cash to help support those that come in
21:36 B-NCSU-Mike i wouldn't sweat the cash. look for the cheapest place possible and just plan to do it. then work out a "downpayment" that we can pay with pre-registration monies
21:36 B-NCSU-Mike and pay the rest after the event
21:36 B-FHSU-DR1 Okay, we'll keep looking into it and get it set up. Out last meeting is this Thursday so... neah.
21:37 B-NCSU-Mike but the date, and information for vendors, companies, etc needs to be written. once we know they are coming in advance...
21:37 B-NCSU-Mike and we know an aprox attendance to know we can pay it, ****, ill take out a loan to rent the center out if need be
21:37 B-NCSU-Mike registrations that say "money not refundable", as most cons are, is gauranteed money
21:38 B-FHSU-DR1 We can get the center as a Group. As long as it's a Club sponsored event we can get it for free
21:38 B-NCSU-Mike even better
21:38 B-NCSU-Mike a concrete date is most important though
21:38 B-NCSU-Mike and who ever goes to gen con will learn a lot about conventions, even if ours will be a much smaller scale
21:39 B-NCSU-Mike lets move on
21:39 B-NCSU-Mike what other topics do we need to discuss
21:39 B-FHSU-DR1 I know... I'll see what we can come up with and get back to you.. Our group has been a bit lethargic this year
21:40 B-NCSU-Mike anything else?
21:40 B-NCSU-Mike will, do you have anything?
21:40 B-FHSU-DR1 Not that I've got
21:41 B-NCSU-Mike constitution, programs, docs, gen con, cattg con, i think that was the agenda
21:41 B-UW-William Sounds good
21:41 B-NCSU-Mike lets be sure to keep getting the word out. if you are a member of a forum, keep a CATTG link in your signiture. any friends at other colleges that are gamers, let em know bout us
21:42 B-NCSU-Mike were too far setup now to linger hoping clubs will find us
21:43 B-NCSU-Mike don't know whats up with hofstra, DR did you find anything out?
21:44 B-FHSU-DR1 Not yet....I Have a Final in the morning that's had my attention for the last few days.. I'll contact them tomorrow after the Test
21:44 B-NCSU-Mike yikes! i didnt know you weren't done. you need sleep. our next meeting is June 2nd, talking about GEN CON. ill be sending emails out as well
21:44 B-NCSU-Mike if thats it, I declare this meeting adjurned
21:45 B-NCSU-Mike DR, i'm naming you scholarship director. thatll give you something to do when you aren't digging in the late night hours
21:46 B-NCSU-Mike ;-)
21:46 B-NCSU-Mike get some sleep, good luck on finals
21:46 B-NCSU-Mike goodnight guys
21:46 B-NCSU-Mike good work tonight
21:53 B-FHSU-DR1 We need it
21:53 B-FHSU-DR1 Thanks Mike. Good Hunting
21:54 B-NCSU-Mike indeed. take care, and see you online in June
