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07:12 ersin hello
08:32 guest169061 anyone around?
09:02 guestgirl hello
09:32 guest228301 hello?
11:02 Gian good Morning Gian here!
11:06 Gian Last week someone gave us a url to go to. Is there one this week?
11:15 Gian Nothing working ere.
11:19 Bea Good morning, Gian. Beatriz here. Where's Joe?
11:22 Gian Glad someone is out there. Still waiting.
11:25 Bea Yes, the chat will start within sime 40 mins, right? How are you?
11:25 Gian I am fine, was I an hour ahead of time?
11:31 Bea well the chat starts at 11:00 am PST. this makes 4:00 pm for me and it's 3:27 now, so let's wait a little. I'm in Sao Paulo, brazil, and you?
11:41 JoeSolomon Hey everyone. Just settling in. Feel free to use this link to enhance the size of the chat room -
http://slifty.res.cmu.edu/chat.html
11:44 Zak Greant Happy rotations people!
11:46 humble that link helps a lot
11:47 humble can we close the other window or will that give us the boot?
11:47 Zak Greant We can close the other window.
11:47 humble thnx
11:48 JoeSolomon :)
11:48 Zak Greant Hello JoeSolomon
11:49 JoeSolomon Hey Zak! Thanks for joining us a bit early !
11:50 guest160368 is this room accessible via normal IRC?
11:50 Zak Greant JoeSolomon: I'm on an unfamiliar network - I wanted to be sure that it would work.
11:50 JoeSolomon I hear that,Meebo is full of surprises (wait till you see the ads)
11:51 JoeSolomon @guest160368 - I don't know
11:51 guest160368 oops
11:51 humble also... for those who may still want to change their username - you have to stick in your age first and then you can change your name
11:52 Eli @ DSF Oi!
11:52 JoeSolomon We'll get the show started in about 5 minutes, Hello Eli!
11:52 JoeSolomon Thanks for the tip @humble!
11:52 Zak Greant Hello Eli
11:52 telerisghost Hi all! I'm glad to see someone using meeb's embedded chat
11:53 Nelz @ DSF Hello all!
11:54 Zak Greant Hrm. That must be the adverts that were mentioned.
11:54 Nelz @ DSF Thanks to Eli for inviting me, hope you guys don't mind. :-)
11:54 JoeSolomon Welcome Nelz!
11:54 telerisghost no advert, just a good and easy to use tool
11:54 dietrich what's DSF?
11:55 Zak Greant David Suzuki Foundation
11:55 dietrich thx
11:56 humble hey... before we start... i have a client who will be providing feeds to DSF
11:56 humble I'm building their site in Drupal 6
11:56 humble wondering what DSF will be using to grab the feeds?
11:56 Suneel Gupta hey all!
11:56 Zak Greant Hello Suneel!
11:56 JoeSolomon @humble - Maybe we could tackle that question after the chat?
11:57 humble sure
11:57 JoeSolomon Welcome Suneel!
11:57 JoeSolomon @humble Awesome!
11:57 Suneel Gupta thanks -- good to be here.
11:57 telerisghost humble, are you on twitter? One of my contacts has a project that needs a drupal programmer...
11:57 Bea Hello Joe.
11:57 JoeSolomon Glad we're all here! Hey Bea! Okay, just about set to rock and roll!
11:57 JoeSolomon For those on Twitter with us, please feel free to tweet thoughts & reactions w/the hashtag #changetheweb
11:58 JoeSolomon Also please forgive the occasional Meebo ad.
11:58 stevel is this on IRC at all? or do we have to use this web client?
11:58 Eli @ DSF 2 minutes to go!
11:59 JoeSolomon 1 minute! ...
11:59 JoeSolomon And it is show time! Welcome to the second Change the Web Chat - "How Can Mozilla Empower Movements & Nonprofits"
12:00 Eli @ DSF Thanks Joe. Take it away
12:01 JoeSolomon I'll be helping to moderate today's chat. I'm also helping to facilitate the Change the Web Challenge, which is partnering with Mozilla Firefox
12:01 JoeSolomon to spur new web apps and Firefox extensions that help people make a difference
http://www.socialactions.com/changetheweb
12:01 JoeSolomon I'm very excited about this chat as Mozilla, as an open platform and awesome community, has a lot of potential for good.
12:02 JoeSolomon I'd like start by asking our featured guests to briefly introduce themselves. Zak, Suneel, and Eli.
12:02 Bea I wish all guests changed their IDs to their names.
12:02 Eli @ DSF Hi!I'm Creative Services coordinator at the David Suzuki Foundation, a Canadian environmental NGO.I do project coordination for things that touch the web, but leave the skilled technical work our in-house geniuses.
12:04 JoeSolomon Welcome Eli! Awesome intro!
12:05 JoeSolomon Zak, Suneel? We are at your ready.
12:05 Zak Greant Odd. I can see my intro, can't everyone else? :)
12:05 Suneel Gupta me too
12:05 Suneel Gupta i'll try again
12:05 Zak Greant Hi! I'm Zak Greant, a staff member at the Mozilla Foundation.
12:05 Zak Greant I'm a long-time participant in a variety of Free Software and Open Source projects, such as PHP, the Free Software Foundation and MySQL.
12:05 Nelz @ DSF there's an error -- I think there's a character limit?
12:05 Zak Greant My work often focuses on a mix of advocacy, community development, licensing and strategy. At Mozilla, I'm focused on how to help more people understand, embrace and share our values.
12:05 Nelz @ DSF I'm going to try again
12:06 Suneel Gupta Hi all. My name is Suneel Gupta – thanks for having me here. I’ve been working with Mozilla’s “Labs” group for the past ten weeks – or so.
12:06 Suneel Gupta My focus has been on a wider-scale launch of “Personas”, which are lightweight, easy-to-use “skins” for your browser.
12:06 JoeSolomon Ah, there it is, Nelz is likely right about the character limit - Alas, you have to split it up.
12:06 Nelz @ DSF Hi, I'm Nelson, the all-around web guy and graphic designer here at the David Suzuki Foundation.
12:06 Nelz @ DSF Mozilla FireFox's browser and extension tools (Dictionary, FTP, developer) have been a tremendous help.
12:06 Nelz @ DSF It's great to have all my development needs in one place.
12:07 JoeSolomon Awesome! Welcome everyone!
12:07 Nelz @ DSF Prior to me joinig the Foundation, I worked with various non-=profits and civic groups
12:07 JoeSolomon I'll get started with a few questions for the guests ... Folks are invited to participate throughout and following the first round of questions, ask your own
12:08 JoeSolomon Eli - What are the three things the David Suzuki Foundation needs right now and in the foreseeable future?
12:08 Eli @ DSF 1. A healthy web ecosystem, just like everyone else.We use hosted software for much of our work, so great browsers AND vendors that support web standards is key.Structured data - microformats and the like to make syndication of data easy
12:09 Eli @ DSF 2. We need to make explicit the link between people's individual actions and the systemic change needed to create a sustainable society
12:09 Eli @ DSF 3. Tools that give the semi-technical the power of the technical wizards. If everyone had Yahoo-Pipes-ish skills that'd be amazing.
12:09 JoeSolomon Wow! To be honest, I expected far less geekier needs. These are very interesting.
12:10 Eli @ DSF You got the geeks in the house
12:10 JoeSolomon I invite everyone to keep Eli's points in mind as we roll w/the rest of the chat - I'll be working to as well.
12:10 Eli @ DSF I struggle to get the non-geeks to attend these sorts of events... it's a struggle.
12:11 Zak Greant Joe? Are you still with us?
12:11 JoeSolomon Well, what's interesting, I think is #2 overlaps a bit with the Mozilla community, which, I believe has 100s of contributors around the world...
12:11 JoeSolomon who make meaningful contributions
12:11 Zak Greant Sorry - chat hung on me.
12:11 Eli @ DSF I see huge overlap between the missions of community-building and behaviour change
12:12 GeekShadow hi
12:12 Nelz @ DSF That's the great thing with #2 -- you have a worldwide collaborative effort to make technology better
12:12 Eli @ DSF and Mozilla and the open-source community have had amazing success in selling standards compliance to vendors and developers over the last 5 years
12:12 Nelz @ DSF that's why I'm a big fan of open-source -- applications and software need not to be proprietary.
12:12 Eli @ DSF In many ways the success of building community that the open source people have had is a lesson for the NGO space
12:12 JoeSolomon It'll be interesting to explore these three needs in the next question, the heart of this chat:
12:12 GeekShadow is it possible to connect this chat via irc ?
12:13 JoeSolomon What are some ways Mozilla/Firefox are exploring leveraging their deep integration and reach in peoples' lives around the world to empower nonprofits and causes?
12:14 JoeSolomon Hmm, I'll try again
12:14 Suneel Gupta think there are a couple of avenues being explored
12:15 Suneel Gupta 1. using AMO (addons.mozilla.org) to serve as an aggregator and central point for people looking for no-cost tech that can help their mission
12:15 Suneel Gupta a little while back, we launched Fashion Your Firefox
12:16 guest609121
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fashionyo…
12:16 Suneel Gupta the idea being that a person looking to accomplish a specific objective -- rather than looking for a particular add-on -- could find what they need
12:17 Eli @ DSF so these are sets of extensions that are themed by objective?
12:17 Suneel Gupta just as we serve people who want apps related to "social networking", I there is an opportunity to serve people who are looking to change the world
12:17 Suneel Gupta correct
12:17 Zak Greant There are also specific initiatives focused on cultivating contributions, such as
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla_Community_Action_…
12:18 Zak Greant This initiative hopes to get millions of Firefox friends actively working in the public good.
12:18 JoeSolomon Those are some wild projects. Both the ability to bridge change apps in Fashion Your Firefox & Mozilla Action Day
12:18 Suneel Gupta right. the third thing we are exploring...
12:19 Eli @ DSF which connects to my #2 .... individual actions seem meaningless, but in a community in aggregate it's amazing
12:19 Suneel Gupta which is related is the Labs group "design challenge"
12:19 Suneel Gupta http://labs.mozilla.com/projects/concept-series/
12:19 JoeSolomon Suneel - Interesting ... How does Design Challenge relate?
12:20 Suneel Gupta the concept is that people with awesome projects with lots of potential can plug into a community of innovators for help with their design, concept, and uplift
12:20 JoeSolomon That is very rock star. So potentially DSF could plug-in with a proposal for a tech solution that could help the environment?
12:21 Suneel Gupta for sure...share your idea...get some feedback...make it better...connect with cool techies and non-techies who share your passion
12:21 guestgirl What kinds of projects are people discussing there? Are they using it the way you envisioned?
12:21 JoeSolomon Neat !
12:22 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) what about integrating existing web based tools such as amazee for collaborators
12:22 JoeSolomon
http://www.amazee.com
12:22 Suneel Gupta @guestgirl: we're getting there.
12:23 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) thanks Joe, great tool, again underutilized
12:23 Suneel Gupta the mission of the design challenge isn't solely for social actions
12:23 RAS@tenpennyplayers Any work on helping small non-profits network with other non-profits?
12:23 Suneel Gupta but as we raise awareness to communities like this, I think more of these types of project will be shared
12:23 JoeSolomon Eli - What about these initiatives do you think is the most compelling - Or what's missing that could help bridge Mozilla magic to help DSF?
12:24 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) RAS good question, I think that need is huge
12:24 Eli @ DSF Mozilla is part of the broader ecosystem
12:24 Zak Greant RAS: Not directly - there are others already doing this.
12:24 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) Zak, whom?
12:25 Eli @ DSF a lot of what I need is reducing the barriers to participation online for people who don't live and breath the web like this community does
12:25 Zak Greant Kathryn: I'll need to grab links after the chat.
12:25 Eli @ DSF open ID issues... and aggregation are on my list of unresolved issues
12:26 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) Eli, YES! Engagement is key! Christine Egger and I were discussing this...
12:26 keka_marzagao Zak: I would be interested i those links as well! tks! :)
12:26 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) Thanks Zak
12:26 JoeSolomon Eli - Mozilla uses Planets to aggregate data - as well as internal hashtags - maybe there's something there.
12:26 Zak Greant (I'll post info at
http://zak.greant.com
after the chat)
12:27 Eli @ DSF but much of the work I need help with is cultural.... DSF is still a IE 6 organization internally because of our Microsoft Intranet, as well as support by our CMS providers...
12:27 Eli @ DSF I need to sell IT on focusing only on platforms that truely embrace standards.
12:27 Eli @ DSF it's another case of being the change you want to see
12:27 JoeSolomon Hmmm... Zak, Is there s/t aligned there with the Mozilla as a movement project?
12:28 Zak Greant Eli: It sounds like it would be handy to have someone local visit DSF :)
12:28 Suneel Gupta i vote for mark surman ;)
12:28 Eli @ DSF but back to engagement, I think barrier reduction (once you get back the barrier of installing Firefox!) is a place Mozilla is well-placed to lead in
12:28 JoeSolomon I'm talking about this link -
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Foundation:Planning:Movem…
12:28 Zak Greant Heh. Suneel, I'm in Vancouver (while Mark is in Toronto)
12:29 JoeSolomon Or rather -
http://is.gd/lD3y
12:29 Zak Greant Joe: There is a definite connection. We'd love to have the DSF thinking about the Mozilla values.
12:29 Eli @ DSF Yes. The mozilla values are a broad value set
12:29 Eli @ DSF in the same way I'm advocating for CC licenses internally
12:30 Nelz @ DSF well, I can definitely help with the behavioural change and wean people away from ie....
12:30 JoeSolomon What are some ways you're creating a culture and movement around openess so that Mark wouldn't have to visit per say.
12:30 Zak Greant ... and we'd love to see DSF participating in the Mozilla Net Effects experiment.
12:31 Eli @ DSF Zak - ping me afterwards about Net Effects
12:31 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) Zak, another link to info on mOZILLA nET eFFECTS?
12:31 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) sorry, caps lock!
12:31 Zak Greant Joe: Initial programs are focused on reaching a broad range of individuals. WIth non-profits, we'd likely still be more one-on-one.
12:32 Zak Greant
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Foundation/Program/Net_Ef…
12:32 JoeSolomon @Zak Gotcha! Thanks for the clarification.
12:32 Zak Greant ...and sample videos live at
http://www.flickr.com/groups/mozillanetfx
12:32 JoeSolomon I want to ask one more question before really opening the floor to the awesome community that's with us.
12:33 JoeSolomon There are 5 Firefox add-ons that come up for the search query 'charity' (0 for nonprofit or movement) compared to 335 for 'bookmarks'.
12:33 Zak Greant However, an outreach program to work with non-profits makes good sense. I'll try to write about this soon.
12:33 JoeSolomon Why do you think this is and what are some ways Mozilla could support more Firefox tools 'for good'?
12:34 Suneel Gupta that's interesting data Joe, thanks
12:34 Suneel Gupta my sense is that
12:34 Suneel Gupta more add-ons exist that can be helpful for movement leaders
12:34 Eli @ DSF us NGOs need to articulate the itches we need scratched
12:34 Suneel Gupta for example, Obama Fox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/8586)
12:34 JoeSolomon ( Zak - I think that would really be interesting to explore - A movement/resource for nonprofits/orgs would be very interesting to see )
12:35 Suneel Gupta can help all movements -- not just the old obama campaign -- track news related to their mission
12:35 Suneel Gupta so part of that is a tagging issue
12:35 Zak Greant I'd bet that a bit of research and tagging of addons would turn up additional plugins - both by non-profits and for non-profits.
12:36 Eli @ DSF tagging and structured data is a huge need in non-profits
12:36 JoeSolomon Suneel - Agreed - Maybe s/t like a mega addon that let a nonprofit plug in the things they need w/in a framework - and out popped an app.
12:36 Eli @ DSF As I was reminded by the recent Social Actions powow in Vancouver
12:36 Eli @ DSF meta-data is oh so sweet
12:36 Suneel Gupta good thought. here's a question for everyone:
12:37 Eli @ DSF like the widget building for sprout?
12:37 Suneel Gupta if we were to add a "movement" category to the Fashion Your Fox (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/fashionyourfirefox).
12:37 RAS@tenpennyplayers Perhaps the nonprofits' mission statements could be uploaded and tagged?
12:37 Zak Greant As for getting more pulgins, I think that we need to help put addon makers in touch with non-profits.
12:37 Suneel Gupta which existing add-ons should be included?
12:38 JoeSolomon Zak - That's something else (bridging addon developers w/nonprofits) that I think would be wild to explore
12:38 Eli @ DSF definitely
12:38 JoeSolomon Eli - Yes! Re: sprout
12:39 Eli @ DSF the developer and NGO communities need a place to chat and build their own community
12:39 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) Suneel, IE tabs, for one, for all the NGO's still using IE
12:39 Zak Greant Suneel: Let's make a list with the help of the Firefox community. I think that we all have recommendations.
12:40 Kathryn Schakel (telerisghost) I've also wondered if a version of Flock couldn't be customized for non-profits/ agents of change
12:40 JoeSolomon Kathryn - I've wondered the same thing.
12:40 Eli @ DSF Flock for activists!
12:40 Eli @ DSF that's a sweet idea!
12:41 JoeSolomon If it helps, I've bookmarked ~30 firefox extensions that have social change aspect in delicious -
http://delicious.com/tag/foxforgood
12:41 Zak Greant Wow. Joe is way ahead of us. :)
12:41 Eli @ DSF as always.... Go Joe!
12:41 JoeSolomon I have a penchant for social change extensions ;)
12:41 keka_marzagao wow, that's great Joe, tks!
12:41 Suneel Gupta really neat, Joe.
12:42 JoeSolomon Flock's eco-edition may be interesting to start with http://www.flock.com/eco/
12:42 JoeSolomon @ this point, I'd like to open the conversation to the community!
12:43 JoeSolomon Questions for our guests, for each other, suggestions, ideas, let's explore together!
12:44 JoeSolomon Hmmm. Perhaps someone is about to share. In the meantime, Eli, Could you share what kind of meta data you're looking for?
12:45 Eli @ DSF How can David Suzuki Foundation be a better member of the web community?
12:45 JoeSolomon That is a wild quesiton.
12:45 Eli @ DSF metadata: I want to be able to connect people online, and then transition those connections into the real world
12:46 JoeSolomon We often ask what can Mozilla do for nonprofits, this turns it around. What can the David Suzuki Foundation do for Firefox & the web community?
12:46 JoeSolomon Eli - What might that look like?
12:46 Eli @ DSF essentially, to do what Obama did with My. Barackobama.com.... start with the online and get people together making change in their communities
12:46 Zak Greant Eli: I'd love to see David be less dismissive of the Net as a whole. This may be a pipe dream or simply not importantt.
12:47 Eli @ DSF David is a 73 year old man. He's pretty set in his ways. But David Suzuki and the Foundation are different beasts
12:47 Zak Greant Eli: I suppose that the real answer it that this is a topic to discover. I'd love to catch up with the DSF staff on this topic.
12:48 Eli @ DSF @Zak - let's talk lunch via email
12:48 Zak Greant Sounds good.
12:48 guestgirl If each org creates its own online communities for change don't we run the risk of setting up online silos just like the inperson ones we are trying to break down?
12:48 JoeSolomon ( The last two comments there seem to be agreeing -- Eli/DSF exploring a My.BarackObama.com game-plan + Zak wishing to see DSF respect the Internet as a strong force )
12:49 JoeSolomon @guestgirl - There I'm agreed. There does seem to be a number of silo wars going on.
12:49 Nelz @ DSF I'm happy that Obama is exploring the possibilities of open-source
12:49 Eli @ DSF I think the silo challenge is HUGE
12:49 Eli @ DSF it's part of the cultural barriers of giving up control
12:50 Eli @ DSF ie) internally there's been talk of creating a "social network" but we're moving away from that because we don't need to create our own silo
12:50 JoeSolomon Zak, Suneel, and others - Where do you see Mozilla's as a potential broker or model to break down silos?
12:50 Zak Greant Sharing control. Lots and lots of little ownership.
12:50 guestgirl I don;t think it's as much about control as it is about wanting to stya in your comfirt zone, even if that's your own blog or web site.
12:50 guestgirl I can't type, sorry. shoulda taken mom's advice... :-)
12:50 Eli @ DSF we've also examined Facebook's platform... which does a lot to recuce the barrier of signups (it's open ID that people understand) but we're not in a closed commercial silo
12:50 Eli @ DSF prettier, but still a silo
12:51 guestgirl This is an issue I struggle with when trying to come up with the best platform or space for creating an online community around a specific functional knowledge area in NPOs.
12:51 Deb down here in the non-p's there are no silos, there are gun turrets.
12:52 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Deb, lol
12:52 guestgirl where are you deb?? yikes
12:52 Zak Greant I think that Mozilla can be a great force to help others make change - we can share models, platforms, a channel to volunteers, a force to help shape markets, etc.
12:52 Eli @ DSF Zak and his unix "small parts loosely joined" is a good reminder that there's a third way between Facebook and creating your own walled garden
12:52 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) I hear you, can't believe how stolid thinking is in n-p's here
12:52 Zak Greant Deb is my mother. :)
12:52 Eli @ DSF are there standards for community sites to interoperate?
12:52 guestgirl awww
12:53 Zak Greant Who got me interested in the Net 15 years ago and taught me HTML. :)
12:53 Enmi, from replyforall.com (Hi, this is Enmi from replyforall.com) Coming from the perspective of a developer of a Firefox add-on, I'd say that it's less about giving up control but more about needing to not compromise the specific functionalities of our add-on, for example
12:53 JoeSolomon Eli - Interesting point! That third model reminds me of what orgs/sites like http://www.350.org/are trying to do
12:53 JoeSolomon Welcome Deb! :) And Enmi :)
12:54 Eli @ DSF yay 350!
12:54 guestgirl (dumb Q) are the ads the price of free meebo?
12:54 Deb Thanks Joe, so far I'm understanding one in seven words, but maybe it will get better.
12:54 Eli @ DSF they know how to build a coalition
12:54 JoeSolomon @guestgirl I think so
12:55 Enmi, from replyforall.com I think what'd be very interesting is for USERS to customize/compile their own 'widget,' 'add-on,' whatever you wanna call it to reflect their own a la carte preferences,
12:55 Eli @ DSF the 350 coalition success is in part attributable to their lightweight nature
12:56 Eli @ DSF NGOs are usually bad coaltion partners once they get bigger because they all think they're fighting for the same funding
12:56 Eli @ DSF so these coaltions fall apart at the point the discussion comes to list-building
12:56 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Eli, that's thye type of stolid thinking I'm talking about
12:56 Eli @ DSF because that becomes a fundraising question
12:56 guestgirl the "lightweights" may bebetter postioned to survive the econ crisis?
12:57 Eli @ DSF yes!
12:57 guestgirl and make real change?
12:57 JoeSolomon Hmm. There's still got to be a way that the big NGOs can combine to do s/t amazing. We're all waiting for it.
12:57 Eli @ DSF in many ways I'm very excited about the economic challenges
12:57 guestgirl me too! interesting to hear someone else say that
12:58 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Joe, I think bringing open-source CC type thinking to the table might help
12:58 guestgirl It will force innovation and long-needed change
12:58 Eli @ DSF the old expensive model will fail
12:58 guestgirl Go open source!
12:58 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) those communities naturally collaborate
12:59 guestgirl It's really hard to teach the value of collaboration, so yes those that do it naturally have an advantage for leveraging their good will
12:59 JoeSolomon Kathryn, I think so too -- and think it's interesting to explore how Mozilla can spread those values
12:59 Eli @ DSF the irony is that the tools that emphasize collaboration are also the cheap ones!
12:59 Zak Greant I must run at this point. I'll post notes to
http://zak.greant.com
- many thanks all!
12:59 Eli @ DSF Rock on, Zak
12:59 guestgirl yeah, ironic huh
12:59 JoeSolomon @ Eli LOL
13:00 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) often, hard lessons teach the value of collaboration, another reason to be excited in this econ climate
13:00 Zak Greant Thanks Joe, Eli and Suneel!
13:00 Zak Greant Many thanks to all who attended!
13:00 JoeSolomon Thank you everyone for joining us. We have (alas) wrapped our hour!
13:00 guestgirl Thanks!! This was my first chat and load of good content and thoughful ideas here.
13:00 Nelz @ DSF thanks!
13:00 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) I got a lot out of it!
13:00 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Thanks
13:00 Suneel Gupta thanks for organizing, Joe.
13:00 humble count me as excited about the economic breakdown
13:00 Suneel Gupta thanks everyone
13:00 Eli @ DSF I think that the open-source world has LOTS to teach the NGO world
13:01 Eli @ DSF especially as we get bigger and lose our connections to the volunteer communities that founded us
13:01 JoeSolomon Thank you Zak, Suneel, Eli & Nelz - and Mary from Mozilla for doing such an awesome job spreading the word! And Romina for helping to organize!
13:01 guestgirl bye
13:01 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Eli, don't lose those cionnections, its still how you build stakeholders!
13:01 JoeSolomon Eli - Great thoughts to conclude on!
13:01 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) I'm a volunteer!
13:02 Eli @ DSF as much as the technology that Mozilla creates is sexy, I think the lessons they can share are the success they've had with community-building
13:02 Eli @ DSF go volunteers!
13:02 Eli @ DSF that's what brought me my sweet sweet Firefox!
13:03 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Everyone who wants add me on twitter @telerisghost
13:03 joesolomon Eli - Wow, well said!
13:03 Eli @ DSF @Joe Flatterer!
13:04 keka_marzagao Thank you all! This has been great once again!
13:05 Bea Thank you everybody.
13:05 humble hey... can i chat syndication with your dsf folks now?
13:05 Kathryn Schakel (@telerisghost) Thanks so much, Joe, Eli, Suneel, Zak
13:05 JoeSolomon :) No, really, there's something that's very much matching there with Mozilla's 2010 goals I believe http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2009/01/05/integrated-revised-2010-goals/
13:05 Eli @ DSF that was super awesome Joe and Team Mozilla
13:05 Eli @ DSF speaking of microformats and the like
13:05 humble thanks joe
13:05 JoeSolomon "Mozilla experiences increasingly applicable to topics such as the open web, hybrid social enterprises, organizational sustainability, shared decision-making, individual control, and portability in Internet life"
13:06 JoeSolomon Happy to help facilitate - Thank you all for joining ! We'll post a transcript link soon to Twitter.com/changetheweb
13:06 Bea Whta about the link to this chat Joe?
13:07 Bea Have to go. bye for now to all.
13:07 joesolomon Ah, figured out the link! Here it is! http://chatlogs.meebo.com/room/changethewebconversations/logs/2009/03/03/
